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Blue Rook

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  • Hello!

    I'm new to the community and thought it would be a good idea to introduce myself.
    My name is Guilherme and I'm Brazilian. I discovered The Black Company books a few months ago in the Portuguese version and since then I couldn't stop reading it (now in English).
    I'm currently reading the first book of the South (I've read the 3 from the North and Silver Spike) and was thinking if I could start contributing right now or if you guys prefer that I finish all the books before I start adding content to the pages. What are your thoughts on it?

    Is there any page that is in need of help?

    Also, when do people use to appear in the chat? I'm from Brazil so we have different time zones..
    Do people here use other chat tools like 'discord'?

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    • Hi Blue Rook!
      I've been away for some time because I was changing jobs. I just finished the Soldiers Live novel and hope I can start to contribute more from now on since I finished the story and can read all articles without fear of spoilers hehehe. I decided to buy Port of Shadows but then I discovered that there are short stories too.

      Now I hope you can help me to understand how short stories work. I live in Brazil and I don't have access to the printed versions of the books. All I was able to do to read the Black Company was to buy the digital version of the books by Tor Books (this one: https://www.amazon.com.br/gp/product/B07DN98ZPH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ).
      I couldn't find a digital version of the short stories, but reading the Wikipedia I found out that " "Tides Elba", "Smelling Danger", and "Bone Candy" were collected and reworked into Port of Shadows". 
      Now, my questions are:

      - Can I read Por of Shadows without having read the other short stories?
      - Will I miss a lot if I don't read the other short stories?
      - Have you ever heard of a digital version of the other short stories that are not contained in Port of Shadows?

      Sorry for bothering you but I really enjoyed this series, I just happen to be from a country where the author is not known at all. Thanks for your help!

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    • GSoster wrote: Hi Blue Rook!
      I've been away for some time because I was changing jobs. I just finished the Soldiers Live novel and hope I can start to contribute more from now on since I finished the story and can read all articles without fear of spoilers hehehe. I decided to buy Port of Shadows but then I discovered that there are short stories too.

      Now I hope you can help me to understand how short stories work. I live in Brazil and I don't have access to the printed versions of the books. All I was able to do to read the Black Company was to buy the digital version of the books by Tor Books (this one: https://www.amazon.com.br/gp/product/B07DN98ZPH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ).
      I couldn't find a digital version of the short stories, but reading the Wikipedia I found out that " "Tides Elba", "Smelling Danger", and "Bone Candy" were collected and reworked into Port of Shadows". 
      Now, my questions are:

      - Can I read Por of Shadows without having read the other short stories?
      - Will I miss a lot if I don't read the other short stories?
      - Have you ever heard of a digital version of the other short stories that are not contained in Port of Shadows?

      Sorry for bothering you but I really enjoyed this series, I just happen to be from a country where the author is not known at all. Thanks for your help!

      That's great to hear. I wish you success with your new job. Exciting times!

      Yes you can read Port of Shadows first, since it contains Tides Elba, Smelling Danger, and Bone Candy. This is mentioned in the introductions for those three articles. Port also takes place before Shaggy Dog Bridge and Bone Eaters so that is fine too. If you are uncertain about the chronology check out this.

      In the USA Amazon website, it is possible to purchase Kindle versions of the 2 anthologies where Shaggy Dog Bridge (9781781081181) and Bone Eaters (9781476780368) appear. They are $6.49 and $5.38 USD which is a good price, especially since each one contains many other unrelated stories a reader might enjoy too. I think I see both of them on Brazilian Amazon too.

      I am glad I read Shaggy Dog Bridge and Bone Eaters. If you cannot buy them for some reason, we do have my summary which I wrote for Shaggy Dog Bridge right here which is free of course. Also, they will probably be chapters in the upcoming Black Company novel called A Pitiless Rain.

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  • I have read the Black Company series many times and even have a signed copy of the book , but I never read anything about their unforms . I build military miniatures and want to build a small group of Black Company soldiers , so any help would be great .

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    • 2600:8804:86C0:F000:E030:5D50:DB9B:1FEF wrote: I have read the Black Company series many times and even have a signed copy of the book , but I never read anything about their unforms . I build military miniatures and want to build a small group of Black Company soldiers , so any help would be great .

      I actually don't have too many details about that, but here are two things that come to mind. In the beginning of the first novel, the narrator writes that they have "grim faces barely visible through gaps in our face guards". So we know the Company invested in helmets with metal face coverings. The rest of the details are limited to their badges, which presumably would be a very small detail in your miniatures. But regardless, to copy and paste from our own article here for the Black Company standard: the badges are a silver circle surrounding a silver human skull with elongated canine teeth. The skull lacked a lower jaw and was exhaling fire; one eye socket was scarlet.

      Feel free to post some pictures of your finished work!

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    • What about (old) covers of the books, they might not be canon, but still it's something.

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    • Hi, I build wargames miniatures too and have been thinking of doing something similar. What scale are you thinking of using? Also i'm assuming you are going to be doing primarily books of the north black company? 

      Glen Cook doesn't really go into detail about how they are outfitted. That said given the technology anything late medieval (hundred years war onwards) up until English Civil War (omitting blackpowder weapons) could arguably work.

      The Black Company is also to a decree based on the real free companies so you could use Landsknechts (maybe a bit overdressed for the Company but would make great Imperial Tower Guards). Swiss Pikemen could work as well. 

      I personally have been thinking of doing Graffet inspired models using conquistador and civil war infantry miniatures. 

      As for troop types - pikemen / halberdiers and swordsmen (Rodeleros? / Greatswordsmen) for melee, and primarily arbelist with a few archers for ranged.

      Good miniature manufacturers to start looking at and you might be aware of are Perry, Wargames Foundry and Warlord.

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  • Should there be a moratorium on adding content to newly published products, such as "Port of Shadows"? In other words, don't add the plot to the article until some time has passed (like a month or two).

    One way to do this would be to add an announcement template to the top of the article and then lock it until the moratorium has passed.

    I think the comments section should remain unlocked, but I'm not sure if increasing the protection level will lock comments as well.

    What's your opinion?

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    • I see what you’re going for. However I’m of the mind that if it’s published, it’s fair game.. Any prohibitions would be arbitrary. Since we have such a small shop here anyway, any contribs are really welcome right? Maybe just pop a spoiler notice on top of anything new?

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    • Works for me. I just wanted to broach the issue. Thanks.

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  • The problem with italics in the Quote template is that the italics only apply to the first paragraph. All following paragraphs are in the normal text style.

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    • Ebakunin wrote: The problem with italics in the Quote template is that the italics only apply to the first paragraph. All following paragraphs are in the normal text style.

      I don't recall seeing that, but if it's true, can you help me italicize the entire thing? Removing them really dumps the visual breakup on a lot of pages. Since this is a wiki about a series of novels, and there aren't a lot of pictures, italicized quotes can be amazing at breaking up giant blocks of text. I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here, but I'm uncertain how to fix that. Do you have any ideas?

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  • You might want to post this notice on the front page. There's only a few days left for the deal.

    https://www.tor.com/2018/08/27/download-a-free-ebook-of-the-black-company-by-glen-cook-before-august-31-2018/

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  • Hi, was wondering about your thoughts on dividing pages between categories. For example, K'Hlata is the tribe that resides south of d'loc aloc, but the location is also  referred to as the savannah of K'Hlata, not to mention the language K'Hlatan. What are your thoughts? Should we have seperate pages for them,  or combine them as a page and use subheadings on a single page? This is also true for other pages such as Roi, etc.

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    • Separate pages I would think. That way we can have nice categories and avoid the potentially awkward article structures if they were all packed together.

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  • Hi, was thinking adding a couple new categories: Governments and Technology. 

    Governments would cover the pages like The Domination and Protectorate. Some of the locations however would all fall under this however such as Jewel Cities. Do you think they should have seperate pages or keep them as a single page?

    Technology would cover stuff like the Catchers Black Ark/Trireme and the Dolphin siege engine.

    A Miscellaneous Category might also be useful for others pages like Tonk.

    What do you think?

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    • Bitterwood wrote: Hi, was thinking adding a couple new categories: Governments and Technology. 

      Governments would cover the pages like The Domination and Protectorate. Some of the locations however would all fall under this however such as Jewel Cities. Do you think they should have seperate pages or keep them as a single page?

      Technology would cover stuff like the Catchers Black Ark/Trireme and the Dolphin siege engine.

      A Miscellaneous Category might also be useful for others pages like Tonk.

      What do you think?

      Yes these seem great. The Domination depending upon context can refer to either the the time period or his rule so that article could indeed have both Events and Government. Although locations like cities don't seem to fit naturally in a Government category. A different approach would be to make a category like "Free republics" and put Aloe, Roses in there, but these are grey areas and I think we'd still be forcing a square peg into a triangle hole...

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